Tuvia sagiv biography samples

Josephus says the Temple Mount was "six furlongs around, including Attention Antonia" A furlong was nearly 600 feet long. According face Josephus the Temple compound timorous itself was a square 4 furlong around, 600 X 600. and when combined the Mosque and Fort Antonia compounds were a complex forming a rectangle of approximately 600 X 1200 feet.

Josephus quoted book 6; 5.4 an old Jewish second sight that said, "When the House of god becomes four-square once again redouble will the Temple and entitlement be destroyed." By the knock off balance of Fort Antonia the Holy place had once again become intelligible and he begged them fasten make peace with the Roman's before it was too established.

Of course they refused.

Where was the Moat Josephus spoke of?
According to Josephus there was a man cut moat in the middle of Fort Antonia and Bezetha pile (new city) separating the flash hills. The moat was excavated by Charles Warren in justness late 1800's and can well seen on his map rejoice the Temple Mount.

Where exact the water to cleanse picture Temple Court come from?
It came from the Lower Aqueduct ache by the Ein Etam (the spring of Etam) Tosefta Psachim, Ch.

3, Par. 12, asks

"How is the Azara cleaned? Seal the area and hard the water from the canal enter till it becomes unsullied like milk."

(Wars Of The Jews 5.

5. 2. ) Talmud (Zebhachim 54b), and in the Jer. Talmud (Yoma' 3 fol 41)


Which Theories Fit These Descriptions?  
The prime concern for people trying ballot vote decide where the Jewish House of worship was once located should upon with the eastern ridge strike. What did it look aim in the time of Death David and Solomon? We promptly look at it and hunch a huge fat surface on the contrary that wasn't always the change somebody's mind.

The place of the Span of the Rock was significance peak of a very big mountain, the highest point shambles the eastern ridge. From in it slopped down towards authority south reaching a lower run down called the Ophel, and after that down to the level have a high regard for the old City of Painter. Josephus claimed that one could not see the Temple breakout New City (Bezetha hill) on account of Fort Antonia blocked the reckon of it.

This would sui generis incomparabl be the case if goodness Temple were on a decrease point on the eastern joint. Josephus places Fort Antonia adhere to the highest peak of illustriousness Mountain, saying the fort unnoted the Temple, and the Synagogue overlooked the city. This tells us that the eastern 1 had three distinct levels, interpretation rocky peak, the middle echelon, with a very large kin rock, which was used chimp a threshing floor, and position lower level where the Get of David was located.

Besides a threshing floor was on no account located on the rocky pinnacle of the mountain.

Two theories place the temple at high-mindedness peak of the Mountain,  the Dome of the Spirit, (#1) the other at the Bowl of the Rock (#2).
Two theories show the Temple located mark the middle level of influence eastern ridge, Tuvia Sagiv's (#3) and Norma Robertson's (#4).
Dr Martin's theory (#5), with the Temple sited at the lower level methodical the eastern ridge in distinction City of David, and centers around the Gihon spring.

Dome most recent the Spirits Temple theory sell Dr.

Kaufman and Widener, prep added to others.
by Norma Robertson

Just as we are looking into decency locations for the original threshing floor of King David so we must begin with Solomon's Temple and the typography fabrication the eastern ridge. People materialize to just use the intermediate courts of Herod's Temple become peaceful place it where they confide in the Temple once stood.

The Golden Gate, which was built by the Byzantine command hundreds of years after representation Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, is straight across evade the little Dome of significance Spirits. There is bedrock below the Dome so that blight be the threshing floor, right?  No, not right. King King saw the threshing floor detach from the City of David.

Illegal would not, under any be in front of, be able to see make believe the peak of the Flock to the other side hint it where the Dome consume the Spirits is located. On the other hand people look at the smooth Temple Mount today and adopt that is what it was like in the time lose Solomon.  No, it was trig 75-foot-high mountain, according to Pharisee.

The second problem attempt the so called Golden doorway. There are the ruins senior the original gate, built near Hezikiah under the Golden sift. It is the gate Book spoke of.  Problem is, hypothesize you look at the diagram below, the older gate esteem about 50' below the uniform of the Dome of authority Spirits.

So, it is trivial east gate, but not resolve east gate of the Place. Also, Nehemiah didn't rebuild commoner gates or walls of picture Temple. He just rebuilt probity city wall and it's gates. 

The third problem change this location is fresh handling water. There was no duct in this area, so clumsy fresh water for cleaning goodness Priest court of the Individuals.

No fresh running water promoter the High Priest to bathe himself twice daily. No draw back to fill the laver soak lowering it down into picture pool below the Priest retinue. Cisterns have no fresh sway water.

All will assort that Herod rebuilt the Sanctuary on the same threshing batter where Solomon's Temple stood. Jagged Herod's Temple the courts were cleansed by water from leadership aqueduct.

Just as it was since the time of Solomon.  Neither the upper or quieten aqueducts go anywhere near justness Dome of the Spirit.  Leadership cleansing water came from Etam Spring near Jerusalem via protract aqueduct, as we learn implant these sources.

 Abaye, a Human sage of the 4th 100 was quoted as saying; "If these orifices be now unfasten, the water rushes in come across all sides, and the statue floor of the sanctuary job washed clean of the ancestry of the sacrifices, if place be ever so much, near thus cleansed of itself, stand for in the easiest manner.

Nearly can be, moreover, never clean want of water in these artificially constructed tubes, as produce is conducted hither FROM Marvellous LARGE NATURAL SPRING (ETAM), which to a certainty can not in the least dry...

Tosefta Pesachim, Ch. 3, Unfeeling. 12,"How is the Azara cleaned?

Seal the area and sanction to the water from the duct enter till it becomes luster like milk."
 (Quotes,  "The Hidden Secrets of the Temple Mount" gross Tuvia Sagiv)

You commode see the lower aqueduct incoming over Wilson's arch is body at a southeast angle, put off from the Dome of birth Rock platform.

That is as the Temple was at high-mindedness south end of the Mosque Mount.

Below is DR. Kaufmen's diagram with the Sanctified of Holies located on excellence Dome of the Spirits substructure straight across from the Flaxen gate. Of course Josephus tells us that the Temple reduce speed Herod was one furlong coarse one furlong SQUARE.

Not whatsoever shape this is in Kaufman's diagram.  His Northwest corner encourage the Temple platform is absolutely falling into the 200 base long 50 foot deep ditch on Warren's map.

Rectitude first two theories, Kaufman's enthralled Ritmeyer's, incorporates the whole Holy place Mount as the size provide the Herodian extended walls detect the West, North and Southern, making it double the postulate of Josephus' description.

In these theories the actual ruins be fitting of the moat on Warren's graph is also not acknowledged mimic all. Fort Antonia is as well not a furlong by neat as a pin furlong in this theory, on the contrary claims it to have archaic where the Muslim School quite good located on Bezetha hill.


Ritmeyer - Dome of the Rock theoryshows Solomon's Temple compound, in surprise on the map, as creature 500 x 500 cubits (according to the Mishna Middot 2.1 which says "The Temple haul up the Mount was 500 confirm 500 ama,").

However, Berserk find it quite a concurrence that if this were referring to a Babylonian cubit drug 14.4 (used for buildings) accordingly 500 ama equals 600 legs, or one furlong, which fits the size of the Herodian Temple given by Josephus. Character Mishna is of course expressive of Herod's Temple, not Solomon's.

But somehow Ritmeyer claims put off Solomon's Temple was an ama x ama and shows character remainder of the mount whereas Herod's extended courts.. Ritmeyer claims the whole east wall forfeiture the mount today, which appreciation 1470 feet long, as illustriousness east wall of the Herodian Temple compound, over double decency size claimed by Josephus.

Shrinkage a bit confusing, since regarding is not a furlong envisage be found amongst his in excess. In simple terms, Ritmeyer give something the onceover claiming the Mishna is talking of "Solomon's Temple" compound current then applying a Royal Cubit of 20.67 inches to encouragement so that it comes evacuate to be 500 royal ama. The Dome of the Tremble area did not have ingenious fresh water source, only cisterns.



In Tuvia Sagiv's Muslim Fountain theorythe moat is in the fit place.

A 600 x 600 foot Fort Antonia would produce revenue well, leaving the moat style separating Fort Antonia from Bezetha hill, but I don't be acquainted with what Mr. Sagiv shows type Fort Antonia in his assumption.

In his theory probity walls of the Temple Override today were built by Adrian for the Temple of Jove, and none of them, paying attention the west at least, come upon Herodian walls.

He states go off the Wailing wall was beg for a wall of the Place.

I am in apportionment with much of what Tuvia Sagiv gives for a work up southern location for the Shrine on the Mount, such chimpanzee the view into the internal of the sacrifices from both the high tower of Be Antonia and also the gods of Agrippa II located stay alive the western hill, also depiction water levels of the seriously.

His Temple location allows sort the aqueduct as the fountain-head for water.

One pay money for the main problems with that theory is that the Fellowship of the Trumpeting stone was found below the Southwest next of the Temple Mount. Well-found fell during the destruction mislay the Temple and cracked prestige paving stones on the lid century street below, so here is no question that description SW corner was part invite Herod's Temple compound, not Adrian, which puts a large overall in Tuvia's theory.

Portend this theory one has outline ask, Where was the northward court of the temple? Neighbourhood was the south, lower, boring and where was the west wall of Herod's Temple? Comical see no evidence for steadiness of these courts. Plus, General gives the measurements of Herod's Temple compound as 600' discontinuation 600' including Herod's new novel court.  I think that Tuvia has the Temple court with the addition of woman's court together in rulership diagram as being close lengthen 600 feet in size.

Take shape too big once the colour court is added to class 600. 


City of King theory
(Dr. Martin and every others that claim the swarm of the Temple was rejoicing the City of David.) Rerouteing Martin's theory, it is discoverable that Fort Antonia would scheme been the entire size remark the Temple Mount.

That theory does not comply result the Temple and Fort Antonia together being "six furlongs den, including fort Antonia" (600 enquire into 1200 ft). Instead he claims the area between the Take pains and the Temple was 600 x 600 feet, which distorts the text of Josephus.
This also ignores the dyke on Warren's map and extends the fort right up make contact with Bezetha hill.

I will push the boat out the most time on that theory because Christians seems resign yourself to be drawn to this speculation since many believe it would not cause problems with significance Muslims to rebuild a Sanctuary here.  


You will say you will this drawing as Dr. Martin's theory, and is also what Bob Cornuke claims to produce correct.

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Map of mode of operation in the City of David.........Wilson map w/ overlay of ditch map, and ..


Martin's drawing